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NetNewsWire – From Hero to Zero in one ‘update’
Filed Under Computers & Tech on August 3, 2009 at 2:57 pm
I have been a huge fan of NetNewsWire for many years and have recommended it every chance I got on podcasts, blogs, and in person. Before NNW was free I was a happy paying customer, and, to be honest, I worried a little when it went free. Without charging for it, would the developers keep adding to it? Keep driving it forward? The answer to that was a resounding ‘no’, it stagnated. However, it was still every bit as good as before it became free, so the stagnation didn’t really bother me. It did what I needed it to do, and it did it well, so I was happy.
What did I need it to do? Firstly, it let me organise my feeds into folders nested as deeply as I wanted, and it allowed me to read a folder as if it was a single feed generated as a combination of all the feeds in that folder or sub-folder. I had literally hundreds of feeds, and had them perfectly organised in folders often three or even four levels deep. It also allowed me to sync read and unread statuses between my many copies of NNW on the three Macs I use and on my iPhone. Finally, it allowed me to keep “clippings” which were also synchronised between all my clients.
This all lead to a fantastic workflow. I would read my news feeds on what ever computer I was at, and, when ever I came across a potential story to include in the IMP Live podcast, I’d just drag and drop it to my clippings folder. On Fridays when it was time to assemble the show notes for IMP Live, I’d just go through my clippings folder on my Mac at home and remove stories from the clippings folder as I added them to the IMP Shownotes. Then, the next week, I’d start the process over again. It was the perfect news reading and gathering experience for me.
Then came last week’s ‘update’ to NNW. I use the term very very loosely, because all this ‘update’ did was strip out features, and hence destroy my news reading experience, and my IMP Live work flow. To paraphrase Churchill, NNW have managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!
The ‘update’ heralded an end to NewNewsWire’s existing syncing service through NewsGator, and a switch instead to a Google Reader back-end. I did the switch, and let it sync with Google Reader. When it was done, I was horrified. My complex and meticulously-built folder structure was destroyed. All sub folders were deleted, and the feeds they contained all dropped into their top-level parent folders. NetNewsWire now no-longer supports sub folders! So much for organisation. If you have 20 feeds, NNW is still fine, but, if you’re serious about RSS, NNW is now useless since you can’t organise your folders properly. NNW was a tool for power users, now it’s a toy.
Next, we come to my much loved clippings folder. It’s GONE! Not only will it not sync anymore, but it has been removed! The 30 or 40 clippings that were in there, lost! Luckily I only ‘updated’ one of my machines, so, when I go into work tomorrow I’ll be able to rescue those clippings. Unfortunately, my simple workflow for IMP Live will need to be completely re-invented.
What is particularly gauling about all this is NewsGator’s (NewsGator own NetNewsWire) arrogance and total dis-regard for their customers’ data. Clearly they have no understanding of how people used their products. It was NNW’s advanced features that set it apart, that made it the best at what it did, and made it the market leader. It is precisely the use of those features that has been removed. All the time and effort people put into the features that were removed has now been for nothing. Erased on a whim by NewsGator – and without proper warning (at least in my opinion). It’s bad enough that they destroyed their user’s hard work and effort, but worse still they had the nerve to sell us this wanton destruction as a good thing, as an ‘upgrade’. That to me is arrogance in the extreme. When a company treats it’s long-time devoted customers like something smelly on the sole of their shoe, they deserve to go bust. NewsGator, for treating me and all my fellow NNW power users like crap, I think you deserve to go bust. Unless you back-pedal faster than a retreating French army, I think you deserve to be bankrupt by the end of the month. It’s your move NewGator, make it a good one!
I agree 100% Bart – NNW was a terrific application. I never used the paid for version as it went free just as I got half way into the 30 day trial. I would happily have paid for it. There were no other news readers that had the same functions. The syncing with clippings was the absolute killer that made NNW indispensable.
Now that this has gone I am at a loss with what to do. It was possible to sync via MobileMe using an exported OPML file but this was also removed and obviously the clippings have gone. I have lost all my clippings as I updated both my Macs at once thinking this was an upgrade.
If you find a solution then shout it out to the world – Google reader is OK but absolutely not an equivalent.
Kev
I agree about 70%, mostly because of differences in our workflows. First of all, I don’t use the nested folders, rather i just go thru the Latest News list.
I did use the Clippings feature, but in Google Reader, I use the Starred feature, which works well. This correlates to the Flagged feature in NetNewsWire, although it is not available on the iPhone app, which is a problem.
The desktop version of Google Reader is fairly good, and definitely better than the online NewsGator reader, which I did have to use on occasion. However, I really like the iPhone/mobile version of the site; it is much better and more functional than the current iPhone version of NetNewsWire.
If you did use clippings, and you lost yours in the upgrade, NewsGator saved them as HTML files in ~/Library/Application Support/NetNewsWire/ExportedClippings. you can then open them in your favorite browser. It isn’t ideal, but it works for the one time of getting them back.
Two other negative things i have noticed: Syncing to me appears to be significantly slower, and I hate the new logo.
And Bart, knowing your aversion to ad supported products, you can’t be happy about the ads.
I totally agree that how this happened was apalling. There should have been much more information up front.
However, you compare GR with NG in absolute terms. Neither is ‘better’ than the other. It’s what you’re used to. Apart from the nested folder thing you can do everything you need in GR. It’s just a little different. Add in some extra apps and you can do a lot more.
I tried NG when the iPhone app came out. I liked the iPhone app. I installed the Mac app too and although it looked and worked fine, I was annoyed at having to have another app open when a browser tab would suffice.
Then we get to NG itself – the web site. As a long time GR user I could not *stand* the cluttered and poorly designed web site. As the web was the only option I had from work (until even that got blocked) I had to endure it in my lunch break. I just went back to GR after that. A clean, simple web interface.
Now, I only have 40 or so feeds, so I have less to keep track of but I think the key thing is I learnt to use GR and therefore have no problems with it. Except that I need to maintain a standard Google account to use it even though I have a Google-hosted domain. But that’s no different to using (the old) NG.
Bart,
Agree 100% with you. I started using NNW as a result of hearing you mention it on a podcast (probably on the NosillaCast). I only have 40 or so feeds, but even so, organising them in folders was a great aid to separate the major topic areas: technical, news, etc. I also used it via a MacBook and an iMac, as well as my iPodTouch (its sad when you catch up on news stories in the middle of the night because you can’t sleep!) as well as via the NewsGator website when at work. I did you Google Reader at one time in the past but found it was rather unmanageable.
I haven’t yet upgraded – I tend not to automatically update software when the update is a “beta” – so I’ve got to the end of this month to migrate.
Will be watching for developments on this one.
Further to my last comment, it appears that you can have folders in Google Reader. Go to manage subscriptions at the bottom left of the page and then you get a list of subscriptions and you can allocate them to folders, but only one level – so no folders of folders as far as I can see.
I hate the iPhone app “update”. Absolutely shocking.